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Just looked up the main stand planning app on Rushcliffe's website, as I do from time to time, and noticed that a revised Travel plan has submitted over the last few days by the club's consultants. This suggests that the club are again actively engaging with the project. I wonder if they're giving some consideration to building in the summer now we've had a sniff of success on the pitch and the ground is full again?
Also, in the day job a couple of weeks ago I was on virtual cpd session with Buckingham Group who are respected builders/project managers. They built the stand at Anfield, Brighton & Brentford's stadiums, the stands at Cardiff and Leicester Tigers and many more sports projects which you'll know. It was just a talk about who they are, how they go about things and the challenges etc they face & overcome. They said that they have been appointed as project managers to build the new main stand for Forest and they were all set and were ready to go. They didn't know (or maybe wouldn't say) what was happening but just said that they were awaiting the go ahead. They did however hint that they considered the go ahead for the project was going to be dependent on success on the pitch.
All very encouraging.
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Thanks Pap.
Think thats what a lot of people are suspecting, that they will continue the planning process and push the permission through. But actual funds for spades in the ground might not happen unless we are promoted. Should EM want to sell up instead he can add planning permission granted to the sales details.
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As much as we were all sceptical about Marinakis' commitment, I've always felt the decision to build would be purely a business decision. You don' build a premier league facility if it's more likely you're going to be playing in league 1 and you don't plough millions upon millions into an infrastructure project if there's absolutely no income coming into the business and as such it's a black hole money wise. Now suddenly, the team have a difficult but not unrealistic chance of a top 6 finish (and so promotion), the stadium is full, the money's flowing in again and surprise surprise planning negotiations are on again.
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(22-11-2021, 03:40 PM)Paplane Wrote: As much as we were all sceptical about Marinakis' commitment, I've always felt the decision to build would be purely a business decision. You don' build a premier league facility if it's more likely you're going to be playing in league 1 and you don't plough millions upon millions into an infrastructure project if there's absolutely no income coming into the business and as such it's a black hole money wise. Now suddenly, the team have a difficult but not unrealistic chance of a top 6 finish (and so promotion), the stadium is full, the money's flowing in again and surprise surprise planning negotiations are on again.
Yeah.
They've already spent millions on it. So, clearly they're serious about it.
I thought planning would be through by the 'Summer'...however, this is a 'tricky' area. Dual carriage ways. Congestion. Residential area etc. A gold metal to 'team Forest' if they pull it off. But there's no doubt the iconic City Ground needs to be updated with at least one of the four stand sides becoming 'state of the art.' It was decent back in 1994. That's now a very sizeable chunk of time ago.
I can see how it's become a bit slow and thorny to get through.
It's bad enough walking to the City Ground from the end of the tram line. (It will take a crack team of genius planners to get the 'ok' for this from every interested party.
The days of volunteers marking out a square piece of grass, with some planks of wood for fans to sit on with corrugated roofs are long gone.
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(22-11-2021, 03:40 PM)Paplane Wrote: As much as we were all sceptical about Marinakis' commitment, I've always felt the decision to build would be purely a business decision. You don' build a premier league facility if it's more likely you're going to be playing in league 1 and you don't plough millions upon millions into an infrastructure project if there's absolutely no income coming into the business and as such it's a black hole money wise. Now suddenly, the team have a difficult but not unrealistic chance of a top 6 finish (and so promotion), the stadium is full, the money's flowing in again and surprise surprise planning negotiations are on again.
Yeah exactly, as much as it felt like a waste not building when the ground was closed, in reality it didn't make financial sense on his part to just go ahead not knowing how badly the affects of the pandemic would be. Hopefully, a strong end to the year will tempt him to pull the trigger. Although, the priority financially should still be plugging the gaps in the squad first IMO.
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(23-11-2021, 10:44 AM)wassy04 Wrote: (22-11-2021, 03:40 PM)Paplane Wrote: As much as we were all sceptical about Marinakis' commitment, I've always felt the decision to build would be purely a business decision. You don' build a premier league facility if it's more likely you're going to be playing in league 1 and you don't plough millions upon millions into an infrastructure project if there's absolutely no income coming into the business and as such it's a black hole money wise. Now suddenly, the team have a difficult but not unrealistic chance of a top 6 finish (and so promotion), the stadium is full, the money's flowing in again and surprise surprise planning negotiations are on again.
Yeah exactly, as much as it felt like a waste not building when the ground was closed, in reality it didn't make financial sense on his part to just go ahead not knowing how badly the affects of the pandemic would be. Hopefully, a strong end to the year will tempt him to pull the trigger. Although, the priority financially should still be plugging the gaps in the squad first IMO.
Probably would have been more expensive to build in pandemic
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#nffc making clear progress under Steve Cooper & more positive moves off the field too. Updated plans for the new Peter Taylor Stand have been submitted, with a final proposal expected in January. Further redevelopment of the training ground also underway. 28k+ at CG tmrw too
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Nottingham Forest are pleased to announce new plans for the further redevelopment of the club’s training facilities at Wilford Lane.
Central to the plans are a new two-storey building and enhanced facilities at The Nigel Doughty Academy.
The new academy building will include fourteen changing rooms, three classrooms, gym, physio room, analysis suite, guest parents’ lounge and canteen facilities, plus additional on-site car parking.
The latest plans are in line with the club’s ongoing investment in the facilities at Wilford Lane which earlier this season saw the enhancement of the show pitch to include a new playing surface and goals, LED floodlights, perimeter fence and dug outs to meet the club’s conditional Category One Academy licence obligations.
The plans will be submitted via the formal planning process with Rushcliffe Borough Council, with a decision expected in the New Year.
Commenting on the plans, Nottingham Forest Chairman, Nicholas Randall, QC, said: “This is another important milestone in enhancing the infrastructure of the club by Mr Marinakis, in line with our long-term aspirations.
“In addition to his continued investment in the playing staff, we are very grateful for the owner’s continued generosity and his vision for how he wants the football club to evolve.
“We undertook a strategic review of the options for developing our training facilities, including assessing other potential locations. We have concluded that Wilford Lane, which has been our home for over 20 years, provides the ideal footprint for us to improve and further integrate our first team and academy operations. This integration is essential to the culture and philosophy we are seeking to develop at the club.
“Everything we do as a club is geared towards continually improving standards to provide the best possible environment for us to progress and this latest investment by Mr Marinakis is another example of that.
“We are proud of the club’s long history in developing players through the academy to the first team and, as evidenced by this investment, it remains integral to the footballing strategy of the club.”
THE PETER TAYLOR STAND UPDATE
The club is also pleased to update supporters on latest developments on the plans for the new Peter Taylor Stand.
The club has recently submitted updated proposals to Rushcliffe Borough Council for a sustainable and environmentally friendly travel plan for visitors to The City Ground, including cycle, foot, bus, and traffic initiatives.
Chairman, Nicholas Randall, QC, said: “As we anticipated from the outset, the new stand has been a complex project. The location of The City Ground is one of the many features of our home that makes it unique and so loved by our supporters, but it also provides logistical challenges which have required careful consideration working in partnership with the local councils and the community.
“Like all our supporters, we are keen to conclude the planning process as soon as we can as we are excited about the transformational impact this will have on our supporter matchday experience. We hope these updated sustainable plans will pave the way for a full and final planning submission in the new year. We will continue to keep supporters updated on progress on this important project.”
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That sounds good. I'm especially interested in the "traffic initiatives" including for buses and bikes. With the new pedestrian and bike bridge being built it may get a who!e lot easier for me and others to get to the WFCG.
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It's an update on how things are progressing. Good news about the Academy site.
As for the Peter Taylor Stand. It seems pretty obvious that 'traffic' was going to be a big issue in that neck of the woods. You have an iconic ground in an urban area with congested traffic. Negotiating this was always going to be tricky, logistically. But if some environmental travel initiatives help get it over the line...
What about a Forest bus that takes you from the end of the tram line to the City Ground?
You'd have it all on biking it from Mansfield. A pity the tram stops where it does. It's still a decent walk from there to the City Ground.
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(03-12-2021, 01:10 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: It's an update on how things are progressing. Good news about the Academy site.
As for the Peter Taylor Stand. It seems pretty obvious that 'traffic' was going to be a big issue in that neck of the woods. You have an iconic ground in an urban area with congested traffic. Negotiating this was always going to be tricky, logistically. But if some environmental travel initiatives help get it over the line...
What about a Forest bus that takes you from the end of the tram line to the City Ground?
You'd have it all on biking it from Mansfield. A pity the tram stops where it does. It's still a decent walk from there to the City Ground.
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There's already a free courtesy bus Strawbs. It goes from outside the train station to Trent Bridge and back again after the game. You just show your tram ticket.
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I had heard a feasibility study has taken place to relocate from the city ground to the A453 near the new housing developments as a back up. Don’t want that to happen…
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