Derby County - Nottingham Forest
(27-02-2021, 10:04 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Freeman has proved he can rip up this league. The only way to get him 100% match fit and back to what he has proved he is capable of is by playing him. Ameobi has been injured, Lolley has issues that require managing. I presume that is the thinking behind it.

Ive seen enough of CH now to 100% put my trust in him. If he thinks he can get a tune out of Freeman then thats fine with me.
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Agreed Pap 100%.
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Absolutely CH has earned my trust too. Wish he would explain to me why he thinks Freeman is good though! Must have missed when he “ripped up this league”. But its a team game and we are getting results and playing well with him in there which is all that counts.
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(27-02-2021, 10:35 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Absolutely CH has earned my trust too. Wish he would explain to me why he thinks Freeman is good though! Must have missed when he “ripped up this league”. But its a team game and we are getting results and playing well with him in there which is all that counts.

Just posted on this elsewhere. I'm with you SM at present re Freeman. Nothing would please me more than to be wrong and for him to rip it up.
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(27-02-2021, 10:08 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Agreed Pap 100%.

I think we are lucky to have such a genuine and experienced manager who seems to be tactically aware of what’s needed match to match , and is slowly building a team that not only plays together but is bonding and supportive and wants to win . Joe Worrell who I watched whilst working at the academy  is becoming a vital member of the team and growing into a fine defender . I really like CH as a person, and he speaks honestly with his assessments and we should extend his contract with the club ASAP .
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(27-02-2021, 10:35 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Absolutely CH has earned my trust too. Wish he would explain to me why he thinks Freeman is good though! Must have missed when he “ripped up this league”. But its a team game and we are getting results and playing well with him in there which is all that counts.

13 goals and 18 assists at QPR. You did miss it SM.
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(27-02-2021, 10:54 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:
(27-02-2021, 10:35 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Absolutely CH has earned my trust too. Wish he would explain to me why he thinks Freeman is good though! Must have missed when he “ripped up this league”. But its a team game and we are getting results and playing well with him in there which is all that counts.

13 goals and 18 assists at QPR. You did miss it SM.

Wow! Which season was that? 

Who scored has him down as 14 goals and 22 assists over 3 seasons?? 

Tried to find a QPR perspective, as I remember one saying he was also a freekick specialist. 

Genuinely want to see what we are missing.

Edit: found this on a Sheff Utd website under heading "QPR fans view on Freeman" feels like we are being teased though.

“Hes our best player, terrific energy, skill. Gets you out of your seat if played at CAM. 6m and hes a bargain”

“Easy good enough for The Premiership and then some on his day he will twist defenders up and make them dizzy”

“Top player, tricky feet, brilliant crosser, can play in the middle or out wide, works hard in defence! Best midfielder we’ve had since taarabt, 4 mil would be an absolute steal”

“Our best player by a country mile ”

“why cant we just keep him, warburton seems to want to work with him, reckon he’ll be wasted at sheff utd……another smithies/Austin.
if he has a good season, his value will go up, and a bigger club will come in for him with more money……keep him.”

“got to be worth 6/7 million , look at some of players going for more and they’re no better than him , also he has a good attitude”

“4 million for Freeman will be an absolute steal. If that’s what we can only get for him than keep him. He’s by far our best player and can keep the club floating in the Championship”

“Great player, has the ability. Good enough for the prem just don’t expect too much of him, the premier league is just different gravy altogether”

“He looked at ease when playing Watford in the FA cup, was beating players for fun.”

“His form faded so badly towards end of season ,but it would still be very disappointing to lose our only quality player for just £4 million”

“Freeman has shown he is a very good player, and I for one would be disappointed to see him go for anything less than 5 million”

“Good feet, good dead ball delivery; not a team player and much overrated by QPR fans.”

“He looks okay in a ropey bottom of the division side but you’re all living in LaLa land if you think anyone would pay £8+Million for Freeman. I’d be staggered if any Prem team bought Luke given how slow he is….. suppose you could argue Blades are just lodging in Prem for a season and already building their 2020/21 squad for Championship so hence their interest.”

“Freeman is a good player but if you are not a QPR fan then this is a player who struggled to get into a good Bristol City side and hasn’t finished above 16th since joining QPR, if we get 6 million for him we’ve done well imo.Any scout who watched him in the last 10 games of last season wouldn’t be recommending him.”

“thought he was poor after that Leeds game and did very little which came at a bad time for him if he wants a move”

“For whatever reason, he certainly went seriously downhill after the Leeds game for the rest of the season.”

“he was absolutely shagged. He’d been carrying the fcking team for 2.5 years had for several months been asked/forced/volunteered to play through a hip injury. That Leeds game came after one of his rare missed games at Boro – no coincidence.”

“Was hoping they would throw mark duffy in the deal”

“Losing Freeman is a huge blow, especially for such a pathetic amount of money, poor form from Sheffield United for exploiting our financial frailties”

“Sheff Utd gonna have a name change themselves at this rate, Sheff R’s
Ravel is training with them too”

“Freeman is good but, at this stage in his career, he’s probably not Premiership material which is why he’s being considered by top end Championship sides (I consider Sheff Utd that)”

“Hope he enjoys his season in the Prem and gets a few games ,nailed on for relegation but a good bit of cash in back pocket then look for new club next year , not really a great football move for him “

” And another year of toiling away in the lower reaches of the Championship would be ? I’m pleased for him. He’s been brilliant for us and has earned his chance to play at the top level. “

“Sheff Utd must be nailed on to come straight back down…”
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I rest my case ^
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(27-02-2021, 11:21 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I rest my case ^

I don't think the case is closed Sniff until he produces for Nottingham Forest anything like some of those comments suggest he did for QPR. Top finish of 16th? 

Its easy to shine in sh1t as they say. 

Some players just fit certain clubs/teams. Birtles Robbo for us. Neil Harris for Millwall. 

Hes probably got over a dozen games to show that player, because some of those descriptions are so far from what we are seeing its untrue at present.

To repeat though I would love it if he did produce.
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CH has been proved right with most - need to trust him.

Jury still out on Freeman ( he keeps selecting him so must see something ) & Arter.
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(27-02-2021, 11:21 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I rest my case ^

Yep, that's the player I thought we were getting when he came. I'd like to see him here next season, when he's got back properly fit and has a manager who believes in him.  We could have one hell of an attaching formation next season if we can keep this lot together and get them fit. Imagine a fully firing Freeman as described above, a rejuvenated Lolley, a settled Knockheart, young Mighten getting better all the time, the excellent Krovinovic and then the decent Ameobi in there somewhere. That's tasty.
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(27-02-2021, 11:52 AM)zicorice Wrote:
(27-02-2021, 11:21 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I rest my case ^

I don't think the case is closed Sniff until he produces for Nottingham Forest anything like some of those comments suggest he did for QPR. Top finish of 16th? 

Its easy to shine in sh1t as they say. 

Some players just fit certain clubs/teams. Birtles Robbo for us. Neil Harris for Millwall. 

Hes probably got over a dozen games to show that player, because some of those descriptions are so far from what we are seeing its untrue at present.

To repeat though I would love it if he did produce.

Him producing for Nottingham Forest though was not my case. My case was that he has ripped up the league before.
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