Ange
Seen a few references floating around liking the appointment of Ange to McLeish. I think that's ridiculous myself and can only be borne by Ange's similar age and advancing years to McLeish back then. McLeish also replaced a favourite manager who was doing well. But that's where the similarity ends for me.

If we'd taken say a Spanish coach who'd just won the Europa league and was previously at a top 6 club in Spain we'd all be a lot more positive about that person right now. Ange wasn't my first pick but neither was Cooper. And Karanka and Hughton were really well respected in the game when they came and look how that ended.

I just hope Ange can scrape few results because he's being give absolutely zero slack by fans who are incapable of understanding the challenge he was presented with when Nuno bailed.
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Nuno didn’t bail - he was sacked. The similarity with MacLeish is that it was a vanity move by Fawaz. I just see similarities- and similar results for what it’s worth!
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(30-09-2025, 05:41 PM)Paplane Wrote: Seen a few references floating around liking the appointment of Ange to McLeish. I think that's ridiculous myself and can only be borne by Ange's similar age and advancing years to McLeish back then. McLeish also replaced a favourite manager who was doing well. But that's where the similarity ends for me.

If we'd taken say a Spanish coach who'd just won the Europa league and was previously at a top 6 club in Spain we'd all be a lot more positive about that person right now. Ange wasn't my first pick but neither was Cooper. And Karanka and Hughton were really well respected in the game when they came and look how that ended.

I just hope Ange can scrape few results because he's being give absolutely zero slack by fans who are incapable of understanding the challenge he was presented with when Nuno bailed.

Spot on.
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(30-09-2025, 07:04 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Nuno didn’t bail - he was sacked. The similarity with MacLeish is that it was a vanity move by Fawaz. I just see similarities- and similar results for what it’s worth!

Hmmm. If I told my CEO that new person brought in to oversee my division wasn’t up to the job and also he hasn’t given me enough resources, didn’t organise timely training and then shouted all of the above around not only the whole organisation and the media too….
Then yeah I would pretty much expect to be sacked.


I don’t think Ange is a vanity move, quite the opposite he was the simplest option. For whats its worth think he is at the right level for us CV wise, just hoping we can adapt our style of play to be effective.

Good point about previous managers too, I was sceptical about both Cooper and Nuno but fully expected Karanka or Hughton to get us promoted.
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Ange won’t do a McLaren and walk. EM unlikely to sack him. I’m sure he couldn’t give a shit about what others say or think about him, but it would be a big hit to the ego. No one likes to admit they made a huge blunder. I think rightly or wrongly, he’ll be the manager for the foreseeable. Just need to be more clinical front of goal. He needs to start games with his best 11 and make changes. That means Jesus has to start up top. CHO, MGW, Hutch. Ando and fingers crossed Luis
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(30-09-2025, 11:31 AM)JollyLollyAussie Wrote: Who should take the baton down the finishing straight DR?

Haha now ain’t that the $64,000 question!
And it’s not just ‘who’, it’s’ when’.
But I suspect it’s some coach whose star hasn’t yet quite risen.

In the meantime, let’s be positive and hope Ange holds the bend well on the third leg for a good couple of years yet.

Maybe he runs hard and well for long enough whilst Glasner refines his craft and then gets his trackie bottoms of to receive the final handover  :Smoking:

Sorry SM  :Funny:
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Ange goal is simple this season - win the Europa league to get Champions League next season, and at the same time avoid relegation.

EM wont care where we finish provided we win the EL and avoid relegation.

This is the bedding in season for the new players and new style ahead of "planned" Champions League next season.
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(01-10-2025, 03:06 AM)JWJW Wrote: Ange goal is simple this season - win the Europa league to get Champions League next season, and at the same time avoid relegation.

EM wont care where we finish provided we win the EL and avoid relegation.

This is the bedding in season for the new players and new style ahead of "planned" Champions League next season.

After finishing 7th, and putting together the squad we have avoid relegation isn't the target. Its even been said in media the owner wants anothet top 8 finish
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(01-10-2025, 07:06 AM)northeastred Wrote:
(01-10-2025, 03:06 AM)JWJW Wrote: Ange goal is simple this season - win the Europa league to get Champions League next season, and at the same time avoid relegation.

EM wont care where we finish provided we win the EL and avoid relegation.

This is the bedding in season for the new players and new style ahead of "planned" Champions League next season.

After finishing 7th, and putting together the squad we have avoid relegation isn't the target. Its even been said in media the owner wants anothet top 8 finish

He said win the EL and avoid relegation.

Avoiding relegation could mean finishing half way.

And when did EM speak to the media and say he wants a top eight finish? 

I believe EM will settle for a trophy over top eight or even top half.

After all winning a trophy gets us into Europe again.
Panic on the streets of London
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Agreed a trophy would be great but we don’t want a relegation battle either, that in itself becomes draining and increases pressure. A comfortable 12th-15th place is fine.
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Agreed SM.

However if we avoided relegation on the last day and then won the EL a few days later I guarantee that everyone would be celebrating like mad, waxing lyrical and going absolutely crazy.
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We're currently a million miles away from winning a trophy. Currently.
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