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Modesto Interview - ozzyten10 - 04-12-2019
It’s quite telling that he is the man in charge of the football and it sounds his brief is to get us to the top flight. Very encouraging to hear he goes to L1 matches and has his finger on the pulse. He talked interestingly about kick starting careers with player swaps- I can see carvalho having a loan to Olympiacos in the near future!!
He talks fondly of remembering watching us live on TV and the special passion of the English football culture.
Any techies out there want to translate? Or you could follow the post over the next 3 days as they translate and pass off as their own!!!
RE: Modesto interview - Jean_claude_killy - 04-12-2019
MODESTO: "NOTTINGHAM FOREST IS A SLEEPING GIANT"
Retired since 2016, François Modesto did not wait to launch a new challenge in football. Today technical director of Nottingham Forest, the Bastiais, accompanied by José Anigo and Sabri Lamouchi, aims to return to the Premier League with the club double winner of the C1. Meet in the north of England with a man who is not cold.
You spent your career as a player between Corsica, Monaco and Italy. It does not make it strange to land here in the North of England?
It's true that this is the first time I'm in this kind of environment, but I like it a lot. I did not know Nottingham, except the history of the club, and it's a nice city. It's a city where I felt good from the first day. I arrived in January, I found myself eating alone in restaurants, as my wife and children stayed in Greece not to disrupt their schooling. And the people were super nice, very open. And then, even from a professional point of view, it's very exciting. It's a big club, a giant sleeping, it feels. It's important for a city like Nottingham to have a club in the Premier League, so we'll do everything we can to get there as quickly as possible.
Since January ? Your coming here was however formalized in October ...
In fact, for three years, I work at Olympiakos recruitment. And as President Evángelos Marinákis also bought Nottingham Forest, I work on both clubs."At the end of my career, I realized that being a coach was very difficult. I prefer this position of sports director, I like to situate myself between the management, the coach and the players. Being the link between all that and making decisions. "Since January, I'm shuttling between the two. But this is where I will be most often. At Olympiakos, everything has been done pretty much, it's pretty stable. Whereas here, you have to start all over again. We must do here what we did at Olympiakos. These are two clubs that play different footballs. Olympiakos is offensive, it's possession of the ball. Here, it's the duels, the one-on-one, it's more physical. But if we have one of the players who is not good here, we can send it to the other club to restart it for example. If it interests both coaches of course. This is what we have already done with Bouchalakis and Soudani for example.
How did you end up working on recruiting Olympiakos?
When I finished my contract at Olympiakos, I returned to Bastia to finish my career quietly. But President Marinákis made me sign a pre-contract that when I stopped, I would continue to work with the club by choosing my position with him. It was a huge chance. I have always been crazy about football, and I wanted to stay in this environment. But at the end of my career, I realized that being a coach was very difficult. It takes a lot of patience. It's something I did not feel. I prefer this position of sports director, I like to situate myself between the management, the coach and the players. Being the link between all that and making decisions.
RE: Modesto interview - Jean_claude_killy - 04-12-2019
How did you get that very strong relationship that binds you to your president?
It's a special story with him. When he bought the club in 2010, I am the first player he signs. So he trusts me right away. And then three championship titles, two cups, good courses in Europe ... Everything worked, I became a centerpiece of the team and I fully adhered to the project. After, I was surprised by his proposal. Olympiakos is a big club, it could have given the job to a lot of other former players of the club. He is a great businessman in Greece and in the world, I think he is not crazy and he saw something in me that could be good for his club. He has great confidence in me and I am very grateful to him. We have a relationship that goes beyond work. And then he was patient with me because at first I made mistakes too. It's normal, I was sports director at 38 years without experience. But he still trusted me, and today, if I'm here in Nottingham with this project, I owe it to him alone.
Since you arrived in January in Nottingham, Sabri Lamouchi has arrived on the bench and José Anigo has been recruited internationally. It was you who blew those names?
Of course. I made the link with Sabri. I had never worked with him, but I saw what he did in Rennes, how he played his team. And I liked it. José, we met in Greece when he was coach of Levadiakos. Before that, we had just crossed paths. We enjoyed ourselves in Greece, we saw each other from time to time, we drank coffee. And then José has a lot of experience, he stayed for 20 years in the biggest club in France with a lot of pressure at OM. He did a very good job at recruiting. And then, he met the president, it went very well.He helped us bring Brice Samba , Samba Sow, and other players. And since he had Sabri as a player at the time, it makes things easier. We all know each other well, we work together, it saves time at the very beginning of a project.
Before it was the players, then the coaches, and now even the leaders. What does England find special among the French in football?
Already, it's not just the English, it's everywhere. I see a lot of criticism of the French championship, our coaches, our trainers. I think we work very well in France. For 10 years, there has been a tremendous amount of work on youth and infrastructure. All the biggest European clubs come to watch the players in France. Because that's where the best talent is. Which other nation has made five finals in major competitions over the past 20 years? But we are still criticizing: " Ohlala Nantes-Brest, what a shitty match! I do not think so. If we look closely at the games, understand them well and respect the French coaches a little, there are many qualities. We must always improve, of course. And on some points, it is by going to see what is happening abroad that we will improve.
Some French coaches pointed out that they did not have a network, and that's why they could not export. Do you think that's true?
Already, you have to be competent. It is important. We have chosen Sabri because he is competent. But it's true that the network at the moment in football is very important. That's also why there are so many Portuguese coaches. Not only because they are competent, but also because they communicate very well and are well settled. Mourinho and others have paved the way, and now they are everywhere. They quickly opened abroad, at the right time, even in the staffs at smaller positions. We must be attentive to this and better showcase our coaches and our players.
What's different here and what did you know before in your career?
There is a lot of respect from the fans towards the coach, the players and the club as a whole. It's incredible. In France, it's not like that. There, it's really a country of football. Football is born here and it feels. After, I do not criticize France, you can not change the history of a country. Here, at the level of engagement and love of football, it is another level.
It's a football in which you would have blossomed as a player?
It's a football that is very difficult. A lot of commitment, a lot of games and very high intensity. And not just in touch, in the races too, constantly. I think I would have liked it, but I think at first I would have had trouble. Because it's not easy to adapt to it. At any time, the match may change. What I love here is that you can win 2-0 in the 86 th and lose the match 3-2. In the Premier League, and even more in the Championship, they attack all the time. In France, and even in other European championships, when you lose 2-0 and you see the time pass, we say " good, it's almost over ... Here they are serene until the last second. They know it can be part of a game. Last year, we did 5-5 at Aston Villa, 3-3 at Norwich while we won 3-0, that's what's good. And it is the English players who bring this. They do not doubt. This is what made their strength in the past, and they start to find with Liverpool for example. The 4-3 against Milan, the 4-0 last year against Barça, is their mentality. That's only seen in England. It is the English spirit, the spirit of the clubs, this public that leads you to surpass you.
How do you explain the growing craze around the Championship?
Already because a lot of former big Premier League clubs are present in this championship. So people follow. And it's the best second division championship in the world. At all levels: supporters, organization, players, commitment, coaches. Just seeing Marcelo Bielsa in a second division championship ...
RE: Modesto interview - Jean_claude_killy - 04-12-2019
How do you understand the particularities of this championship when you discover it like you?
It's simple. I left alone with my car to see matches of Premier League, Championship and League One to understand this football. Seeing it on TV is fine, but living it on a daily basis is something else."I left alone with my car to watch Premier League, Championship and League One matches to understand this football. Seeing it on TV is fine, but living it on a daily basis is something else. "Here you can go to a match every day. Being on the ground is important. Because you meet people, opposing clubs, mentality. You feel things, you impregnate yourself and then you can ask yourself to choose the players to recruit. It was very important to come six months before, as an observer, to understand what is happening and to adapt. I'm coming to a foreign country, you have to respect that. You must not change everything. I always say that when you are a foreign player, you have to adapt to the country, it is not the country that has to adapt to us. It's the same as a leader now. I have to adapt to the people, the football and the club here, bringing our foreign touch that can perhaps improve some things.
On which points do you want to bring something different?
Foreign players to advance the team tactically, I would say. At the level of commitment and determination, there is nothing to change. We prioritize English players and we take strangers to bring a talent in addition, a player who has this little trick.
You know that you like Corsican football when ...
Ten years ago, did you see yourself traveling around England in a car like that to look for players?
Never. But I believe a lot in destiny. The first match I did in Ligue 1 with Bastia was against Monaco. I played Monaco behind. My first European Cup match with Monaco is against Olympiakos. And I remember when I was little, I must have been about 10 years old, I had seen an English League Cup final, which Nottingham Forest had won. It was a match that marked me because at the time, few games were broadcast. In addition, when you're young, Nottingham Forest is a name that slams you. And at that time, the finals of the League Cup, I did not see many, it is the Nottingham that I saw, not all those Liverpool, Manchester or I do not know which club.
What do you think of when you take your car on the road in England?
I think I was a boy from Bastia who was born into a very average family, who did not think he could one day end up in England in such a mythical club. I'm proud of it. It's a pride for me and for the name of my family to be here. It's beautiful. There is everything to do to win this bet. But it's the beauty of football, which gives a lot of life possibilities.
Your experience as a former player, it helps you in what?
Already, you feel things right when you return to a locker room. You feel the players, the coach, the club staff. It was my strength. You feel the temperature of the locker room after the victories, the defeats. After recruiting, when I was a player, I was already watching all my opponents, from Monday to Friday before the game. I was always taking notes, I was eating video and everything. So, I always liked to be one step ahead. After, the side of the negotiations, of this world, it was a surprise because when you are player, you do not think about all that. It's more where I had to learn on the job and progress. It's not because you've been a good football player that you're going to make a good coach, a good sports director, a good analyst or a good recruiter. It can help you, of course, but when you finish your career, you start a second life again. You must forget your football career, and start a new career, so relearn things.
"The truth is that the day I made my last match in Bastia, it's as if everything was erased. Because I already knew that I had the opportunity to return to a club to start immediately working in football. "Some footballers have trouble living, retirement. You, staying in the middle of football, it helped you to digest it?
I did not digest it, I did not have time. I left a cloakroom in May, and returned to another in June. So, I just had less vacation than a football player. (Laughter.) But the truth is that the day I made my last match at Bastia, it's as if everything was erased. Because I already knew that I had the opportunity to return to a club to start immediately working in football. So, I did not ask myself these questions, I did not mind. If I had not had anything, I would have enjoyed the holidays in summer, but arriving in September, I would have started to fart a lead: " Whore, what am I going to do? Children go to school, everyone works, and I'm alone ... "Fortunately, that did not happen to me.
Before a match, did you have more pressure as a player or now as a leader?
Now ! Widely. (Laughter.) When you're a player, you decide. You are on the ground. At any time, you can change the course of the match in the right or wrong direction. As director, you can not do anything. You do not play, it's not even you who make the team. (Laughs) And that's normal! But you're shaking all week to find yourself helpless when it's really playing. You suffer inside.
"As a director, you're shaking all week to find yourself helpless when it's really playing. You suffer inside. "Now that you're on the other side of the fence, do you realize the job that some club members were doing, that you did not see as a player?
It's exactly that. I may have been tough sometimes with some leaders. The number of hours of work when you are a leader ... I arrive in the morning at 7:30, I come home in the evening, it is 22h-23h, or midnight. It is necessary to follow the medical, the technical staff, the players, the press, the recruitment, to anticipate many things. Sometimes, you take your car to go to Manchester, you come back in the night, or you sleep at the hotel to leave to see a game of League One ... There is a lot of work. I tell them to the players: " Enjoy now. "I was a player, I was like them, I arrived in the morning at 9am, I did my training of two or three hours, then massage, my care, my nap, I saw my family. It's normal, huh, it's not a criticism, they have to do that to be successful. But it's cooler. (Laughs.) I was light years away from imagining that the leaders had it all for work.
RE: Modesto interview - Jean_claude_killy - 04-12-2019
Interestingly he credits Anigo with the Samba and Sow signings.
RE: Modesto interview - optimistic_red - 05-12-2019
Thanks for the translation, makes interesting reading.
RE: Modesto interview - Duncan Mckenzie - 05-12-2019
I found this bit interesting:
On which points do you want to bring something different?
Foreign players to advance the team tactically, I would say. At the level of commitment and determination, there is nothing to change. We prioritize English players and we take strangers to bring a talent in addition, a player who has this little trick.
RE: Modesto Interview - Camms - 05-12-2019
Nice interview. Modesto sounds like a very nice down to earth bloke who is genuinely proud to be working for Nottingham Forest Football Club.
RE: Modesto Interview - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 05-12-2019
I saw Modesto on Sunday, he was sat on the Olympiakos bench for the game with PAOK.
I really like this set up we have now, I was a bit sceptical at first that Modesto could do two jobs at the same time but it's looking really good now and the fact that Modesto, Anigo, Dourekas and Vrentzos all know eachother, are all friends and have all worked together at various stages before is very important. They have a huge amount of trust and faith in eachother. That can surely only be a good thing for Nottingham Forest.
RE: Modesto Interview - Dog and Bear - 05-12-2019
True Sniffer. It all bodes well for the future.
RE: Modesto Interview - Strawberry Avenger - 05-12-2019
(05-12-2019, 10:54 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I saw Modesto on Sunday, he was sat on the Olympiakos bench for the game with PAOK.
I really like this set up we have now, I was a bit sceptical at first that Modesto could do two jobs at the same time but it's looking really good now and the fact that Modesto, Anigo, Dourekas and Vrentzos all know eachother, are all friends and have all worked together at various stages before is very important. They have a huge amount of trust and faith in eachother. That can surely only be a good thing for Nottingham Forest.
To have a team at Forest who 'know' one another is significant. It's been a hot potch and a corner shop rotting in the past for too long.
The new leadership at the very top. The team filled in behind Marinakos. Rivet gunning the football side of things. Improving recruitment (it is going forwards and the league position reflects that) and building on it. Giving the City Ground a bit of TLC. The plans for the New City Ground (recognising it's iconic status and location) and planning for the Peter Taylor Stand. The positive out reach to the Forest community in all these plans.
It's more professional. It's more business like. From a team that have already done a stunning job with Olympiacos.
That could be Forest 'one day.' (Not too far away.) I have more trust that Marinakis is ruthless enough to do what must be done. And Forest will benefit from that.
SA.
RE: Modesto Interview - Derby My Arse - 06-12-2019
(05-12-2019, 10:54 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I saw Modesto on Sunday, he was sat on the Olympiakos bench for the game with PAOK.
I really like this set up we have now, I was a bit sceptical at first that Modesto could do two jobs at the same time but it's looking really good now and the fact that Modesto, Anigo, Dourekas and Vrentzos all know eachother, are all friends and have all worked together at various stages before is very important. They have a huge amount of trust and faith in eachother. That can surely only be a good thing for Nottingham Forest.
That is music to my ears.