(11-08-2021, 12:58 PM)Paplane Wrote: CH needs to be careful here. If we lose on Saturday, which I would say is now the likely result, then we could be going into the Derby game in two weeks time with next to no points from 4 games. And we know what follows if you lose that game off a bad run.....

(11-08-2021, 03:53 PM)wassy04 Wrote:

(11-08-2021, 12:58 PM)Paplane Wrote: CH needs to be careful here. If we lose on Saturday, which I would say is now the likely result, then we could be going into the Derby game in two weeks time with next to no points from 4 games. And we know what follows if you lose that game off a bad run.....

I get your point but 4 or 5 games is not a season. Why can't we just wait till christmas before deciding things are terrible. 

We're not realistically going for playoffs anyway this season so doesn't matter if we lose a few games.

I'm aware some of the fans may disagree, anyway even if we do lose the first 4 games, it's not the manager to blame. Not his fault we've not signed anyone yet or that we had a covid outbreak or that Worrall and Soh got injured.

(11-08-2021, 04:17 PM)Reds73 Wrote:

(11-08-2021, 03:53 PM)wassy04 Wrote:

(11-08-2021, 12:58 PM)Paplane Wrote: CH needs to be careful here. If we lose on Saturday, which I would say is now the likely result, then we could be going into the Derby game in two weeks time with next to no points from 4 games. And we know what follows if you lose that game off a bad run.....

I get your point but 4 or 5 games is not a season. Why can't we just wait till christmas before deciding things are terrible. 

We're not realistically going for playoffs anyway this season so doesn't matter if we lose a few games.

I'm aware some of the fans may disagree, anyway even if we do lose the first 4 games, it's not the manager to blame. Not his fault we've not signed anyone yet or that we had a covid outbreak or that Worrall and Soh got injured.

Try telling Garner, Zinckernagel and the players they are trying to get here that.

They have to be sold on the project that we are trying for top 6.

Zinckernagel mentioned it, and Hughton talks about being competitive in top half.

Even though we are re-building there is no reason why we shouldn’t be aiming to stay on the coat tails of the top 6.

Marinakis will not just write reasons off - no chance.

(11-08-2021, 02:03 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: The point I am making is Bong getting suspended has resulted in the predictable celebrations on Twitter and everyone piling in saying it proved he is useless and he got what he deserved.
If Mckenna say had committed that offence and got a subsequent ban I suspect most would be outraged at the decision and would be rushing to defend him saying it was unintentional.

(11-08-2021, 04:17 PM)Reds73 Wrote:

(11-08-2021, 03:53 PM)wassy04 Wrote:

(11-08-2021, 12:58 PM)Paplane Wrote: CH needs to be careful here. If we lose on Saturday, which I would say is now the likely result, then we could be going into the Derby game in two weeks time with next to no points from 4 games. And we know what follows if you lose that game off a bad run.....

I get your point but 4 or 5 games is not a season. Why can't we just wait till christmas before deciding things are terrible. 

We're not realistically going for playoffs anyway this season so doesn't matter if we lose a few games.

I'm aware some of the fans may disagree, anyway even if we do lose the first 4 games, it's not the manager to blame. Not his fault we've not signed anyone yet or that we had a covid outbreak or that Worrall and Soh got injured.

Try telling Garner, Zinckernagel and the players they are trying to get here that.

They have to be sold on the project that we are trying for top 6.

Zinckernagel mentioned it, and Hughton talks about being competitive in top half.

Even though we are re-building there is no reason why we shouldn’t be aiming to stay on the coat tails of the top 6.

Marinakis will not just write reasons off - no chance.

(11-08-2021, 06:12 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(11-08-2021, 04:17 PM)Reds73 Wrote:

(11-08-2021, 03:53 PM)wassy04 Wrote:

(11-08-2021, 12:58 PM)Paplane Wrote: CH needs to be careful here. If we lose on Saturday, which I would say is now the likely result, then we could be going into the Derby game in two weeks time with next to no points from 4 games. And we know what follows if you lose that game off a bad run.....

I get your point but 4 or 5 games is not a season. Why can't we just wait till christmas before deciding things are terrible. 

We're not realistically going for playoffs anyway this season so doesn't matter if we lose a few games.

I'm aware some of the fans may disagree, anyway even if we do lose the first 4 games, it's not the manager to blame. Not his fault we've not signed anyone yet or that we had a covid outbreak or that Worrall and Soh got injured.

Try telling Garner, Zinckernagel and the players they are trying to get here that.

They have to be sold on the project that we are trying for top 6.

Zinckernagel mentioned it, and Hughton talks about being competitive in top half.

Even though we are re-building there is no reason why we shouldn’t be aiming to stay on the coat tails of the top 6.

Marinakis will not just write reasons off - no chance.

Hughton did mention about being competitive.  I'm sure he dropped veiled hints about bringing players in re: the same interview.  Ie.  In order to be competitive...

But as you say, Reds73.  It's got to be top half with a run at top 6.  Quality players aren't going to come for a languid mid-table effort.  There's no reason why positions 5-6 aren't up for grabs.  (Pun intended.)

Rebuilding yes.  But there's no reason why, if recruitment pull their finger out, we can't get the Forest ship going in the right direction from the get go.

Still need that LB, CM ball player and a brute up front.  A powerful winger would be nice.  And a thrusting Zimmerman (I can't remember the spelling of this target's name...)

*shrugs.  Forest were probable a couple of cancelled pre-season games from victory v Cov'.  So no panic yet.  But nervous Forest fans probably won't be happy until we get 3-4 more players in for this bright new dawn.  They can see it.  I'm sure recruitment are (!) busing a gut to get them in.

I just don't know why the Premier League and the FA, the Football League...just don't get together and set the deadlines for the transfer market to eg. the end of July.  Well ahead of the transfer deadline, so there isn't all this signing of players up to a month after the league starts.  It's very messy.  How are you meant to have pre-seasons with after 3 months off and the season starts and you're still getting players in.

I'm sure there's some sense in the current system.  But I can't see it.

SA.

(23-08-2021, 09:07 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: Osei-Tutu out for 'several weeks' with a hamstring injury.

(23-08-2021, 09:30 PM)Uwantlee Wrote:

(23-08-2021, 09:07 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: Osei-Tutu out for 'several weeks' with a hamstring injury.

Send him back to arsenal... we knew this was going to happen... why do we sign players coming back from long term injuries.

(23-08-2021, 09:30 PM)Uwantlee Wrote:

(23-08-2021, 09:07 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: Osei-Tutu out for 'several weeks' with a hamstring injury.

Send him back to arsenal... we knew this was going to happen... why do we sign players coming back from long term injuries.

(24-08-2021, 09:54 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(23-08-2021, 09:30 PM)Uwantlee Wrote:

(23-08-2021, 09:07 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: Osei-Tutu out for 'several weeks' with a hamstring injury.

Send him back to arsenal... we knew this was going to happen... why do we sign players coming back from long term injuries.

We did exactly the same with Sam Hutchinson a few years back too, we never learn, once a sicknote.